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What Colors Will My Dog Make?
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How Do I Make Phantoms?
Phantoms come in every color.
However you can only see the phantom markings on chocolates and blacks.
The most versatile stud that you can own in my opinion is a red or caramel phantom.
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With a red or caramel phantom you can put them with a red or caramel female and get red and or caramel babies.
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But if you put a red or caramel phantom with a black or chocolate phantom you have so many more options of what you will get!
Black Tri
Phantom
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Chocolate Tri
Phantom
Caramel Phantom
Red Phantom
Phantoms I think nearly drove Shelly Buntin crazy when she was trying to teach me about the phantom genetics. It was right after I had a TBI from a car accident and it just wasn't sinking in to my brain.
Here is an easy way to know what you can get and what the letters mean.
Look at your dogs K locus.
These are the only options:
KB/KB
KB/KY
KY/KY
When you are looking at the K locus you also need to look at the A locus.
There are multiple options for the A locus but for purpose of phantom we are looking for A or AT
KB - Means the K locus is closed and has nothing to show. Shelly used to tell me the KB means it's BLOCKED
KY - Means the K locus is open... Shelly would say the Y is for Yes... It's open.
Each parent dog will contribute one K locus.
If you breed:
KB/KB x KB/KB you will never produce a phantom
KB/KY x KB/KB each puppy will have a 50/50 chance of getting one KY. The puppies this litter would produce will either be KB/KB or KB/KY
KB/KY x KB/KY each parent can throw a KB or a KY
Statistically speaking you should get:
KB/KB
KB/KY
& Some KY/KY
KY/KY x KY/KY
100% of the puppies will be KY/KY and will be phantom. However please note if they are red or caramel they will not show the phantom markings. Genetically you just
hit the jack pot.
Now the A locus will tell you if you are going to see any white on the chest for the tri color gene.
If you breed:
A/A x A/A It's not likely that you will see any white on the puppy providing it's not a parti.
AT x AT will result in all puppies being tri or bi color phantoms depending upon their color. AT/AT red phantoms can produce black and caramels can produce chocolate and or black tri colors you just won't see the tri on a cream colored dog.
Roan
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Roans
At the time this website is being put together the most reliable testing company out there for the roan locus is Embark. I would NOT recommend testing with Orivet at this time. They used to be PawPrints but they are NOT reliable.
Roan often is mistaken for ticking. They are tested on the same locus but they are not the same.
R/r = Single copy of roan
R/R = Double copies of roan
Rti = Ticking
R/Rti = one copy roan & 1 copy ticking
There are only about 3 lines of roans that I'm aware of in the ALD world. We are currently working on a new infusion line that we should have ready by late 2026.
R/R is double roan. Doesn't matter what the other dogs R locus is if one of the dogs is R/R every puppy in the litter will be roan.
R/r x r/r every puppy in the litter will have a 50/50 chance of inheriting one copy of roan.
R/R x r/r every puppy will inherit one copy of roan and will be roan.
Roan is a dominate gene.
Please let me know when one of you creates a new RR stud with new lines.
Here is a spreadsheet to the roan studs that I am aware of.
Do YOUR homework! There is one line that is known for throwing BAD hips. One line is known for throwing F/Fw. It's super important to ask questions.
How to make or avoid parti's
The parti locus has not be completely figured out yet.
The S locus is what we will look at next.
Here is a general rule of thumb there can be other factors that will sometimes give you results you weren't expecting.
SS = can not produce parti
S/sp = parti carrier
sp/sp = parti
When you breed:
SS x S/sp the litter will produce: SS & S/sp
SS x sp/sp: every puppy will be S/sp
sp/sp x sp/sp: every puppy will be parti
Before you breed for parti make sure you know what your market conditions are. Extreme parti's are usually difficult to sell.
Gigi is an extreme parti roan. At birth she had a spot on her butt and some black on her face. This is a photo of her at 18 months.
This is Cassidey.
She is a chocolate parti that has heavy markings. We live in the PNW. Extreme parti's are difficult to sell. No one can keep them clean. If I'm go ing to make parti's I would prefer to produce HEAVY markings. We had to test this girl to see if she was parti or HUGE tuxedo. Her entire back side is chocolate and underside is white.
We were producing so many extreme parti's that we finally had to start making/buying some SS boys to put with them.
Extreme parti's to SS for us has been a super option.
We have been getting huge tuxedo's with this breeding combo.
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